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4/13/2019 11:31 pm  #1


DKP Suggestions

Ok my thoughts on the DKP system is for now with the drops and armor that we've been getting during the Hate and Fear raids is we just keep going like we are and random everything to the classes that can use it.  That seems to work well and been going good.  Everyone is getting geared up.  Let's stick with this for the next month. After that then we can switch to DKP on this loot as well so for the final month before kunark releases the people who are missing specific pieces of armor still can use DKP to get them.

Now for when something that cost DKP drops (CoF, RBB, Amulet of Necropotence, etc...) I would like it to be a straight bidding system. Start bids at 1 point and whoever bids the most gets it. Naturally the only classes that can bid on them are the one who can make the most use of them. That way if someone really wants a specific item they can save the points up and get them and it depletes their saved points so other people then have a better chance at loot.

I think everyone should start with 50 DKP and they get 5 points at the start of each raid, 5 points at the end of the raid and 2 points for each DKP worthy boss we kill.  We will need someone to look into keeping track of this and find a program we can dump the raid list into during the times to keep track of this. So anyone want to take on this responsibility? All DKP points should be updated at least once a week and a list of who has how many points listed in the DKP forum here in the message boards so everyone knows who has how many points. Each person should also keep track themselves so they can question any disparages.

Epic pieces should be random for anyone who needs it and not cost DKP at all.  The only exceptions to this will be if someone is within 1 or 2 pieces of getting their epic then the pieces need to go directly to them. That will be the call of the class leaders and guild leaders. All epic pieces that are dropable needs to go directly to the guild bank and given to the people when they are ready to turn in the pieces for their epic. That way we can farm them out as quickly as possible.

DKP can be gained on any character you play but we will ask that you only play 1 character during a raid (NO BOXING). If DKP is gained by an alt they can spend it ONLY if none of the mains in the guild wants the item. The only exception for this is if the alt is specifically asked to be played for a raid that we don't normally have enough mains to successfully complete the raid. Then the alt will be allowed to bid using their DKP like any other main there.  This will be up to the raid leader to decide.

Specific items obtained on guild raids with DKP needs to be kept track of and if someone wins an upgrade to an item they had previously got during a raid then the old item needs bid off to be passed down within the guild. For example lets say I won a RBB then 2 weeks later a CoF drops and I also win that. The RBB will need to be offered up in guild to be bid on for whoever needs it.  This way we don't have people just using DKP points to get items to later sell and will help the guild as a whole.

So what does everyone think about this?  Any suggestions or ideas you want to toss out there? Anyone want to become the official DKP point keeper? I would like to start tracking DKP this Wednesday if possible.  Worst case I can pen and paper it until we get someone who can figure out the way to dump those files and make it easier. Not sure how we want to handle people going negative on DKP points I'm more hedging on the side of not allowing it so it's fair to everyone but open to reason why this should not be. None of this is set in stone this is just a discussion topic for now I want to hear everyone's opinion on this before anything is decided for sure.

Last edited by Burta (4/13/2019 11:34 pm)

 

4/15/2019 4:37 am  #2


Re: DKP Suggestions

this is mmy first TLP since playing on P99. the raid content is harder here than on p99 esp with MotM. so more people are required. will we be able to have DKP bids and distribute loot in a timely manner with so many people not paying attention to raid. 25% seem to afk alot. and like 20% dont listen.  just a concern making a 3 hour raid last 6 hours because of the looting choke point.

 

4/15/2019 12:00 pm  #3


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I think it needs to be on a timer. Just as it has been now with people randoming for the loot. The item or roll is called for in the raid channel people bid and we go from there. "Should" be faster than rolling since now we dont have to wait for people to get in range to roll. Call the highest bid out give a last call count to 3 and sold. Hardest part will come down to whoever is keeping track to write down who bid how much so we can subtract it from totals. If people are afk thats on them and will be made aware of this in the dkp rules. Of course big major items we will give a bit more time to bid on but people need to know there gear and place bids if they want them.

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4/15/2019 1:40 pm  #4


Re: DKP Suggestions

Maybe we could set up a channel for bidding.

There is so much chatter in /rs that I miss things sometimes.  I am used to only raid instructions being passed in /rs, that way nothing important gets missed.

 

4/15/2019 5:54 pm  #5


Re: DKP Suggestions

My question is actually about bidding.

When we do unofficial raids on off nights or after official raiding has ended, I assume we are randoming rather than bidding DKP since DKP is not earned on those events? (eg a Monday night trek into open world Fear, Sky, or Hate say).

Actually I guess that’s two assumptions I’m hoping to get confirmation on:
1. DKP is earned on official raid nights only (Ie Wed Sat Sun)
2. DKP is only bid (spent) on official raid nights too.

Accurate or no?

 

4/15/2019 8:12 pm  #6


Re: DKP Suggestions

Burnberry wrote:

My question is actually about bidding.

When we do unofficial raids on off nights or after official raiding has ended, I assume we are randoming rather than bidding DKP since DKP is not earned on those events? (eg a Monday night trek into open world Fear, Sky, or Hate say).

Actually I guess that’s two assumptions I’m hoping to get confirmation on:
1. DKP is earned on official raid nights only (Ie Wed Sat Sun)
2. DKP is only bid (spent) on official raid nights too.

Accurate or no?

LOL #1 yes for the most part sometimes no though but on those nights the raid will announced as an official raid and DKP given out.  We will try to give as much notice as we can to get as big a turn out as we can but it may be shorter notice then is usually.

#2 is yes after hour and pick up raids should always be NBG and /random 1 1000 for whoever can use the loot. If we're taking on something large that potentially could drop big loot then usually that will be moved to an official raid where DKP will be given for attending that raid. It's best to ask though at the beginning of these raids what the targets are and if it's gonna be an official raid. I don't know what drops from each mob so that would be best handled by the raid leader and he could determine if  there's a chance for loot that we would want to DKP on. If that's the case then everyone should be notified at the beginning of the raid and that target actively sought out. There's always exceptions though i can't give examples as i don't know specific targets but if we are on an unofficial raid and lets say a major target pops up in front of us then yes we hold the rights to switch the unofficial raid to an official raid at that time to take on that mob. Usually a bounty of 10 DKP will be assigned to everyone who's there and loot will become DKP eligible. If that makes sense to you. Again it's an unlikely scenario but don't want to rule it out and don't want to lie about anything to you.

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10/07/2021 6:07 am  #8


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12/24/2021 8:09 am  #10


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