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I have been doing a lot of factioning on Burnberry in anticipation of the day he peels back his human skin to reveal his true, lizardman self. In case this is of interest to any of you, I thought I would make a faction primer.
What is faction?
The first thing you need to understand is STANDING and how STANDING relates to FACTION.
STANDING: Your standing is a score from -2000 to +2000 that represents the influence (good or bad) your in-game actions have had. Standing defaults to 0 for all groups you come in contact with until you do something for (or to) them. Standing is easily misunderstood because it is the critical element of Faction. When we talk about “faction hits,” we are actually talking about changes to our STANDING. However, since STANDING is a 1-to-1 aspect of Faction, the literal meaning of what we said ends up being true as well. However, once your STANDING with a group drops to -2000 or hits +2000, you can no longer progress in that direction (but can reverse course).
FACTION: Faction is the result of Standing plus an adjustment for race and another adjustment for religion. (There is also an adjustment for Alliance and +faction gear, but those are one-off situations and are typically quite intuitive.) Finally, it is unclear if your class also has an inherent adjustment value. I doubt it. I suspect that any adjustment for class is actually handled by the +/- adjustment for religion since your class already restricts your religious choices in EQ. With that said, if you try to buy from Dubious NPC merchants, they will often call out your class when telling you that they will not sell to you.
So what are my race and religion adjustments?
I would love to get my hands on those tables, but have not found one yet. If you do, please share in comments.
You can calculate the net of your character's adjustments by subtracting your standing from 2000 and then adding your current faction with any of the groups. For example, I have 1,030 faction with Karana Residents after increasing my standing to +2,000. That means that my Erudite Necro started the game off with -970 Faction and 0 standing. My net adjustments with Karana residents were -970. Enough to make me Kill On Site (KOS).
How do I find out my scores?
Type /faction in game.
What do these numbers mean? What do I have to increase my score to in order to get to x?
The way mobs treat you is a simple lookup of your Faction score on the table below. (I have added tier divisions based on being attacked, being able to use merchants, and access to quests.)
1100 to 9999 Ally: This is as good as it gets. All quests are now open to you.
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750 to 1099 Warmly: A positive filler faction. Most quests were already available when you hit Amiable.
500 to 749 Kindly: A positive filler faction. Most quests were already available when you hit Amiable.
100 to 499 Amiable: the NPC is starting to like you. MANY quests open up at Amiable
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0 to 99 Indifferent: the NPC will tolerate and sell to you, but certain quests may still be out of reach
-100 to 0 Apprehensive: the NPC will tolerate and even sell to you, but prices will be bad
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-500 to -101 Dubious: the NPC will tolerate you, but merchants will not sell to you
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-750 to -501 Threatening: the NPC may attack you if you look at them funny
-9999 to -749 KOS
Some faction nuances:
1. There are factions that are literally impossible for certain people to improve. I cannot move my Peacekeepers faction. No method exists for me to do so.
2. Some factions are easier than others.
3. In many cases the best faction quests are only available to people who *already* have Amiable faction. (This is why I am spending so much time on this now before I become an Iksar.)
4. It is all incredibly complicated and specific to your character. Raising one thing often lowers another. No one can easily tell you what to do. You are going to have to do a lot of research on your own if you want to faction. That said, I will put together a list of the faction quests I have used to fix Burnberry's faction with various groups and post that as a comment on this thread as a way to get you started.
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INSTALLMENT 1: Qeynos & Rivervale
QEYNOS (IT IS POSSIBLE TO BECOME ALLY TO BOTH SIDES)
Deliver Gharin's Note (evil) to but only do the first 2 steps
What you need: Buy 100+ Crow's Special Brew
What you do:
1. Find Gharin in South Qeynos. He is outside by day and in a room at the inn by night. Bind by him.
2. Give him 4 unstacked drinks. Receive note.
3. Run through the warrior hall to zone into the catacombs through the secret entrance.
4. Follow the hallway to the right. Invis so the SK mobs don't attack you. Find Nomaria and give her Gharin's note. (You can do this even if you are KOS.)
5. Gate. Destroy the note Nomaria gave you.
6. Repeat.
What you get (net of two sets of changes):
Bloodsabers +50
Guards of Qeynos +43
Antonius Bayle +7
Corrupt Qeynos Guards -5
Circle of Unseen Hands -12
Buy Blackburrow Stout from Guard Shilstar (NK)
What you need: 5,999gp (it must be gp)
What you do:
1. Go to a bank and turn 600plat into 5,999gp (don't worry - you're only going to use 100 plat worth at a time)
2. Go to the furthest NE portion of NK before the river, find Guard Shilster. Bind.
3. Give him 5gp at a time. (NOTE: This is why you do 5,999. You can just click BACKSPACE 3x in order to do 200x 5gp turn-ins).
4. Do this 200 times. (Yes, it is a lot of clicking. I did it over 2,000 times now.)
5. When you get to <5,000gp, Gate or Origin back to a bank. Get another 5,999gp. Trust me, it is easier to backspace 3 times than to try and erase what is there and type '5.' You're doing this over and over and over again, after all.
What you get (per trip with 200 turn-ins):
circle of Unseen Hands +200
Corrupt Qeynos Guards +200
Kane Bayle +200
Bloodsabers +200
Guards of Qeynos -200
You also get a bottle of Blackburrough Stout. I ended up with enough to max alc. tol. without even doing brewing.
Give 2,000 Silver Bars for Fixxin (NK)
NOTE: You have to be at least Indifferent to Karana Residents to do this one! I had to kill bandits in HHP and WK until I was able to do it.
What you need: 2,000 silver bars (cost is about 1,000 plat)
What you do:
1. Go to NK and find Fixxin. He wanders and stacks on top of his friends and is generally a pita to trade with.
2. Give Fixxin 2,000 silver bars in a single trade. (Recommend having your /log off for this)
What you get (from turning in 2,000 of them):
Karana Residents +2,000
Knights of Thunder +2,000
Priests of Life +2,000
Guards of Qeynos +2,000
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RIVERVALE
Probably the easiest zone to maximize your faction in.
Bandages for the Honeybuggers
What you need: 2,000 bandages
What you do:
1. Give 2,000 bandages to Joogl Honeybugger in the Misty Thicket (you can give him them all at once but note the loss in standing with Coalition of Trade Folk Underground faction - see below. He also gives you vendor junk that you could sell off if your bags are not full.)
What you get (from turning in 2,000):
Deeppockets +2,000
Guadians of the Vale +2,000
Mayor Gubbin +2,000
Merchants of Rivervale +2,000
Coalition of Tradefolk Underground -2,000
If you what to end up amiable to the Coalition of Tradefolk Underground too, you will need to stagger how many bandages you hand in. Do several hundred. Then switch to the Tonics for Groflah quest (below) before handing in the rest.
Tonics for Groflah
What you need: 135 Brewing.
What you do:
1. Go to Ocean of Tears and buy 200 Kioala Nuts
2. Combine 200 Kioala Nuts + Flask of Water in a brew barrel to make 200 Tumpy Tonics
3. Go to the Seafury's Roost in East Freeport.
4. If Tarym Shoontar, Imxil T'brow, or Sir Edwin Motte are up either kill them (watch out though - faction hits!), pick over, or come back later. Personally, I killed Tarym Shoontar for the Surefall hand-in, but came back later if it was anyone else. Sir Edwin Motte's head is used in the NEC epic, so send a NEC a tell if he is up and maybe they will come kill him for you if they still need it.
5. Once Groflah the dwarf is spawned in Seafury's Roost, just give him the 200 Tumpy Tonics.
What you get (from 200):
Coalition of Tradefolk +2,000
Coalition of Tradefolk Underground +2,000
Knights of Truth +2,000
Merchants of Qeynos +1,400
FREEPORT:
Much of what you need to be non-KOS with Freeport you get while building your Qeynos standing. The one notable exception is the Freeport Militia.
The best quest I have found for this so far is the Deathfist Slashed Belts, Evil version
What you need: Deathfist slashed belts (Commonlands orcs; Tip: check the vendor between orc 1 and orc 2)
What you do:
1. Go to EFP and find Captain Hazran in the Militia building
2. Give him up to 4 Deathfist slashed belts at a time.
What you get (per each):
Freeport Militia +5
Coalition of Tradefolk Underground +1
Knights of Truth -1
Priests of Marr -1
FINAL TOUCHES, Priests of Marr faction:
Message Intecept
What you need: Amiable faction with Commons Residents. (If you don't have at least Amiable, kill orcs in the CL until you do. Save any DFSBs you get.)
What you do:
1. Go to CL and buy up to 2,000 bottles of milk from Parthar
2. Go to Mojax (also in CL) and give him <x> bottles of milk where <x> is the number of points ABOVE -100 you are with the Freeport Militia. (NOTE: you might be able to drop this to -500 and still be okay to turn in DFSBs but I wouldn't chance it.)
3. Farm and turn in more DFSBs.
4. Turn in more milk to make up the negatives you just ate turning in DFSBs.
What you will get (per bottle of milk given to Mojax)
Knights of Truth +1
Priests of Marr +1
Freeport Militia -1
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